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paulm34
14/02/2007, 17:57
Just done a BT speed test to check my ip profile an my download speed is half of what the profile is:confused: (see below)

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
IP profile for your line is - 4000 kbps
DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM) 4000 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 1841 kbps

I have chech to see which pipe i am on and its green with 7.2mb so thats ok what could it be:rolleyes:

Ircsum
14/02/2007, 18:14
If it's the same problem I've had twice in the past couple of weeks it's an Enta radius server problem. To verify, you should do the old BT test as well and check the discrepancy between speeds from the new and old tests. That discrepancy is down to Enta, and you can raise it with Brian.

Ircsum.

paulm34
14/02/2007, 18:42
whats the old BT test:confused:

Ircsum
14/02/2007, 18:47
You'll find it here (http://217.32.105.42/cgi-bin/home.page.pl).

You need to disconnect your ppp session, login as speedtest@speedtest_domain, no password, then surf to the link above. It bypasses the ISP so removes them from the equation.

Ircsum.

paulm34
14/02/2007, 19:30
Thanks mate:D Just tryed it connected to internet ok clicked on link ok but when i put the phone nunber in and click go after 30 secs it comes up with page cannot be displayed:rolleyes: i am using IE7 tryed it a few times still the same

Ircsum
14/02/2007, 19:53
It was working this morning...I'll give it a go (Firefox) and report back.

Ircsum.

edit: Yep, works fine with Firefox.

Realist
14/02/2007, 20:52
Its intermitent, keep trying.

Robbie
14/02/2007, 21:11
Just worked for me on IE7

2507kbps :eek: , need to put a new rubber band in my router :D

paulm34
14/02/2007, 21:40
Tryed it again but would not even log onto bt web address so i will give up tonight as it is valentines night;) But checking on www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/ my download speed is now about 3500kbps. Which i think is correct for a 4000kbps profile. Maybe it was congestion on my exchange, as it has been in the red since november (but BT love to keep moving the eta times for fixing it:rolleyes: ) Thanks again for the support i will keep a eye on it:D

surfer_chick
14/02/2007, 23:40
One thing I've started to notice is that when I disconnect then reconnect I get good speeds of 4-5000kbps, but within an hour or so it drops back to below 2000kbps again. On checking my test history the only time I get high spikes is when I've re-connected, but other than that it only ever achieves 1600-1900kbps.

I know I'm still in the training period for a few more days, but is this normal activity?

OldPing
15/02/2007, 00:17
Yeah. To be honest I have noticed a different in BT speed test results and thru-put on enta. There seems to be 25% difference, roughly.

"Houston, We may have a problem"

Ircsum
15/02/2007, 09:49
The problem seems to be a side effect of the anti-loss tool. When the pipes go green the d/l speed will stay stuck unless you disconnect & reconnect to a different Central. It's a radius/anti-loss tool issue.

Ircsum.

surfer_chick
15/02/2007, 09:57
Same again this morning, tested it when I turned PC on and it was 1790 - re-connected and it shot up to 5930 - will test it again in an hour or so and see if it's dropped again.

I think I'm on last day of training today, so will see how it goes over the weekend.

tboorman
15/02/2007, 10:41
The problem seems to be a side effect of the anti-loss tool. When the pipes go green the d/l speed will stay stuck unless you disconnect & reconnect to a different Central. It's a radius/anti-loss tool issue.

That shouldn't happen though. Has anyone reported it to Entanet?

Ircsum
15/02/2007, 12:03
That shouldn't happen though. Has anyone reported it to Entanet?

They seem to be vaguely aware of the problem, from what I read on the AG forums.

Ircsum.

surfer_chick
15/02/2007, 13:38
Just tested speed again after being connected 4 hours and I'm pleased to say it's stayed up! :D

Results taken from speedtest.net just now ...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/86630103.png

OldPing
15/02/2007, 14:46
I just did a speed test and this isn't very good at all:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/86649108.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm suppose to be on a MAX product here!

Realist
15/02/2007, 14:51
You was connected on the 13th Feb.

Your inside your 10 day training period.

Broadband Max points to note
Please read the following carefully:

Broadband Max is a RATE-ADAPTIVE technology that can provide connection/download speeds of UP TO 8Mb (8 Megabits) per second.

This may mean that you will not receive an 8Mb connection when you re-grade to Broadband Max.

Broadband Max works in the following way:

BT software at the exchange level initially determines the MAXIMUM possible connection speed that can be achieved for your line. This depends on many variables, including but not limited to, line quality, distance from the exchange, and exchange capacity.

WE CAN NOT SUBMIT ANY FAULT REPORTS TO BT RELATING TO SPEED ISSUES OR DROPPED CONNECTIONS DURING THIS 10 DAY PERIOD.

Once the training period has finished, your MSR does not guarantee that you will connect and achieve the MSR at all times. As mentioned previously, Broadband Max is RATE-ADAPTIVE PRODUCT, this means that more or less bandwidth will be available and allocated as the controlling software at the exchange determines.

Again, if your connection and speed falls within BT's Acceptable Parameters as determined by your MSR, WE CAN NOT SUBMIT ANY FAULT REPORTS TO BT.

What causes loss of sync?
Generally, noise, RF interference and noise from local electrical items are common causes.

Is it SNR dropping below a certain value? (http://adsl24.co.uk/faq.html#21)
Yes, once your SNR/noise margin falls to the point your router struggles to differentiate the ADSL signal from the background noise, it has no option (other than disconnect and try a re-sync, usually resulting in a lower sync speed).

What can I do to stop it happening?

Try the steps mentioned here (http://www.dslzoneuk.net/socket.php?type=html). BTW. It's not ISP related. Any increase in the number of re-syncs occurring after a migration is usually down to other factors:

1. Have you changed from a fixed speed product, to ADSL max (ADSL max, by its very nature, results in a lower noise margin, and increases the risk of instability)?
2. Were you on a LLU product with your old ISP (which would involve moving your line to different equipment in the exchange)?
3. Are you using a different modem (or router)?
4. Have you added any new items to your 'phone setup?
5. Have you, or your near neighbours, recently installed any new electrical appliances?

I just did a speed test and this isn't very good at all:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/86649108.png (http://www.adsl24.co.uk/forum/redirector.php?url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%77%77%77% 2e%73%70%65%65%64%74%65%73%74%2e%6e%65%74)

I'm suppose to be on a MAX product here!

Realist
15/02/2007, 14:57
Here is my speed test

http://www.speedtest.net/result/86653206.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

surfer_chick
15/02/2007, 14:58
Your results will be all over the place for the next week or so OldPing, until you finish your training period, mine have been too :)

surfer_chick
15/02/2007, 14:59
How come your upload is so high Brian?? :eek:

OldPing
15/02/2007, 15:22
Your results will be all over the place for the next week or so OldPing, until you finish your training period, mine have been too :)

Yeah. I'm not too bothered anyway at the moment. Just having a connection after the 186K experience is a luxury!

That response from 'Brian' looks like hes copied and pasted that a few times. :p

OldPing
15/02/2007, 15:28
I did a BT speed test too just after, it said:

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
IP profile for your line is - 2000 kbps
DSL connection rate: 288 kbps(UP-STREAM) 1152 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 623 kbps

Interesting why throughput via the actual IP address is so slow isnt it.

Realist
15/02/2007, 15:43
Because Im on a business package.



How come your upload is so high Brian?? :eek:

surfer_chick
15/02/2007, 15:57
DUH!!!! silly me http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6371/dohhh9.gif

paulm34
15/02/2007, 19:09
Well Brian i think something is not working somewhere on the Enta network as i have just done a speed test (see below)

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
IP profile for your line is - 4000 kbps
DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM) 4000 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 1903 kbps


Just disconnected from internet and reconnected and tested again (see below)

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
IP profile for your line is - 4000 kbps
DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM) 4000 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 3285 kbps


So there is a problem there but what is it:confused:

surfer_chick
15/02/2007, 19:15
When did you migrate over Paul?

tboorman
15/02/2007, 19:23
So there is a problem there but what is it:confused:

As mentioned earlier in this thread, this appears to be a side effect of Entanet's anti-loss tool.

surfer_chick
15/02/2007, 19:29
As mentioned earlier in this thread, this appears to be a side effect of Entanet's anti-loss tool.

It hasn't happened to me today though, and I'm on Day 10 since migration.

I've done several tests throughout the day and have consistently achieved a stable speed of around 6000kb/s but prior to this I could only get the higher speeds shortly after re-connecting before it would drop off again.

tboorman
15/02/2007, 19:35
I don't think it's affecting everyone. There are reports of the same issue on other forums.

paulm34
15/02/2007, 19:36
I migrated on the 13th from Aquiss

tboorman
16/02/2007, 12:56
The issue with needing to disconnect and reconnect to get maximum speed affected me this morning.

Brian - do you know whether Entanet are looking at this please?

Realist
16/02/2007, 13:10
Not to my knowledge Tim.

tboorman
16/02/2007, 13:37
Any chance you could raise this with them please? Do you want me to open a support ticket with you about this?

Realist
16/02/2007, 13:40
Send a support ticket to support@enta.net or us and I'll see what I can do.

Give as much detail as possible so everyone understands ;)

surfer_chick
16/02/2007, 13:45
The issue with needing to disconnect and reconnect to get maximum speed affected me this morning.



It happened to me too, I was down to around 1700kbps when I logged on this morning, re-started and got 5900kbps, but just checked again and I'm back down to 2094kbps :confused:

Ircsum
16/02/2007, 13:53
I had it on TH2 yesterday. Last night I was on Global Switch and speeds were fine this morning. It may only be affecting TH2.

Ircsum.

ant
16/02/2007, 14:13
my test at work


http://www.speedtest.net/result/87085963.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

ant
16/02/2007, 14:13
id love these speeds at home, but at the mo im with tiscali!

tboorman
16/02/2007, 17:24
I had the problem on Global Switch this morning.

Ircsum
16/02/2007, 17:46
You saw the 'balancing' answer given at the other place, Tim?....early in the morning that can't be an issue, surely?

Ircsum.

tboorman
16/02/2007, 20:19
It was at 6:15 am, so it can't be anything to do with the centrals being out of balance. If it happens again, I'll raise a support ticket about it.

Ircsum
16/02/2007, 20:30
If I were the suspicious type I'd speculate that Enta were damping daytime throughput in a random way, until capacity increases a bit. A ticket might get the response that there's an incorrect profile setting on their radius server, and they'll fix it. Just as well I'm not the suspicious type. :)

Ircsum.

tboorman
16/02/2007, 20:33
Dropping the PPP session and reconnecting fixes it though, so I don't think it's deliberate.

Ircsum
16/02/2007, 20:37
I suppose I'm basing the suspicious viewpoint (which I don't hold, of course) on the slightly dismissive 'balancing' answer mentioned earlier.

Ircsum.

tboorman
17/02/2007, 10:18
The same thing happened this morning on TH1 - my download speeds wouldn't go above around 280 KB/sec. Reconnected to TH1 again, and hey presto, my download speeds were back to 375 KB/sec.

Ircsum
17/02/2007, 10:30
I've stayed on GS....didn't have the problem yesterday morning & didn't have it this morning, either.....750-770 KB/sec down, about my max at present.

Ircsum.

surfer_chick
17/02/2007, 16:08
I switched to TH2 last night and it's been fine since, no major drops :)