View Full Version : How much does your line speed usually decrease at weekends?
TattyBear
12/04/2008, 11:37
During the day weekdays, I get around 3200kbps, lowering to about 2600kbps in the evenings.
It's now Saturday morning, and I'm just managing to scrape 1500kbps. It was like this last weekend as well and all over the Easter holiday period.
Should I be finding this totally unacceptable, or is it just par for the course with ADSL24? :mad:
Beta_Tester
12/04/2008, 11:48
Which central are you on? If you are NOT on 1 or 6 read this....
As has been said before:-
Enta suffered a DSL router outage which seems to affect centrals 1 and 6 on Thursday morning. Therefore everyone who was on these 2 centrals will have ended up onto one of the other 4.
Therefore at the moment, centrals 1 and 6 are lightly loaded - the others are heavily loaded.
If you are getting slow speeds, and are on central 2, 3, 4 or 5 - then use your routers logout/login function to attempt to get onto one of the other 2 centrals. I am on central 1 and getting maximum speeds at the moment.
Silent Shark
12/04/2008, 12:34
I too am getting unusually slow speeds this weekend., much slower than normal.
How do I find which central I am on?
the-bruce
12/04/2008, 12:48
Speeds seem fine here ....
http://adsl24.co.uk/centralstatus.php
Brucey
DJGuardy
12/04/2008, 13:14
Fine here, on central 2, and I know the status aint great, but to be perfectly honest, it's not affecting anything to the point I'm unhappy with it. It's hardly crawling speeds, anything but that infact.
Plus the outage recently causing a central imbalance, just be patient, and if you want, go to Pipex, I'm sure they'll take you on their advertised as broadband dial up service ;)
For me approx 3.5km from the exchange there doesn't to be a big difference, in fact this week connecting at 7am to try to get a good sync Ive struggled to get 3Mb sync, whereas at midday today (saturday) I've got 4Mb sync..:confused:
I have also found I get a better connection/sync with my old Voyager 100 adsl modem than my Netgear router?.. And by unplugging the filter and putting the phone into the socket and lifting up the receiver for a bit (the bt engineer told me to do this, clears the line in some way?) and then putting the filter and the connection back.
I am strangely back up to 3500 now... After taking 4 days to go from 350 to 2500, From 2500 I took 2.5 days with 3 disconnections to get back up to 3500.
The outcome is that for me leaving my line connected continously doesnt seem to increase the speed with which my ip changes.. And my snr margin has gone from 6 to 9 to 12 in a space of a week?
TattyBear
12/04/2008, 15:03
If you are getting slow speeds, and are on central 2, 3, 4 or 5 - then use your routers logout/login function to attempt to get onto one of the other 2 centrals. I am on central 1 and getting maximum speeds at the moment.
How do I do this via logging off and back on via my router settings? Is it just hit and miss, or will there be a router setting I have to fiddle with?
I've logged off and back on twice now, and I've keep getting put back on central 5 which is giving slow speed.
ppp connect/disconnect in router if it supports it that is...
As regards to which central your put on after the fact is a bit hit and miss i'm afraid.
Its actually been quite good on C1 all day, better than usual in fact :)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/258476251.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/258618734.png
TattyBear
13/04/2008, 19:01
Why do I always get put on central 5 which seems to be the slowest pipe? :mad:
I've not even managed 2000kbps this weekend despite an IP profile of 3500.
Not happy! :mad:
Crazybrandonian
13/04/2008, 20:24
Yes, i'm getting this also. My adsl speeds are always (since I signed upto adsl24 back in january) my speeds have always been 4000-6000 via speed tests during week days, never been below this since I signed up.
The past week however its been abysmal I haven't had a speed above 2000, today it was like this (was worse this morning:
this speed test was performed at http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/ - And my adsl package is 8mb Business line (£29.99 a month) - Reported Data Rate on my line is "Data Rate : 7616 DL 832 UL kbps "
Download Speed: 1139 kbps (142.4 KB/sec ) Upload Speed: 674 kbps (84.3 KB/sec ) - Upload speed is perfectly normal, my upload cap is 85kb/s.
My speeds were:
700-800 KB/sec - before I started getting this problem, now i'm debating with my girlfriend wether its time for us to find a new ISP because this amount of unstableness the past week, it doesn't impress us at all.
TattyBear
13/04/2008, 20:37
Yes, i'm getting this also. My adsl speeds are always (since I signed upto adsl24 back in january) my speeds have always been 4000-6000 via speed tests during week days, never been below this since I signed up.
The past week however its been abysmal I haven't had a speed above 2000, today it was like this (was worse this morning:
now i'm debating with my girlfriend wether its time for us to find a new ISP because this amount of unstableness the past week, it doesn't impress us at all.
I think we both agree we're getting very poor service, you especially so given what you're getting against what you should be getting.
I've thought about leaving ADSL24 as the evening and especially weekend service is so piss poor, but I've really no viable alternatives as I live in the countryside and most ISP's don't cover my exchange. Having fought tooth and nail to leave AOHELL a few months back, I certainly don't want to sign up to a long term contract for what's probably going to be an equally lousy service.
Crazybrandonian
13/04/2008, 20:40
I think we both agree we're getting very poor service, you especially so given what you're getting against what you should be getting.
I've thought about leaving ADSL24 as the evening and especially weekend service is so piss poor, but I've really no viable alternatives as I live in the countryside and most ISP's don't cover my exchange. Having fought tooth and nail to leave AOHELL a few months back, I certainly don't want to sign up to a long term contract for what's probably going to be an equally lousy service.
Aye thats the only thing thats kept us with adsl24 so far is that theres no alternatives :/ I don't want to be locked down to a 12 month contract with a shit isp, the 1 month contract on adsl24 made me weep when I heard about it.
I just hope they fix the slow issues quickly otherwise i'll be asking for some sort of discount on my line because I refuse to pay £29.99 for an 8mb business line when I receive the speeds of a 4mb none business line.
Gargoyle
13/04/2008, 21:28
but I've really no viable alternatives as I live in the countryside and most ISP's don't cover my exchange. Having fought tooth and nail to leave AOHELL a few months back, I certainly don't want to sign up to a long term contract for what's probably going to be an equally lousy service.
What??
Pretty much any ISP will provide you with a service. Most ISP's are just selling on the ADSL service provided to the exchange by BT Wholesale. The only ones you won;t have access to are those that only use a LLU service such as Be.
Zen, Newnet, IDnet are just 3 names that come to mind that have a good reputation and 1 month contracts - though you won't find such generous download limits for the same money.
But then you don't get something for nothing.
TattyBear
13/04/2008, 21:34
What??
Pretty much any ISP will provide you with a service. Most ISP's are just selling on the ADSL service provided to the exchange by BT Wholesale. The only ones you won;t have access to are those that only use a LLU service such as Be.
Zen, Newnet, IDnet are just 3 names that come to mind that have a good reputation and 1 month contracts - though you won't find such generous download limits for the same money.
But then you don't get something for nothing.
I'm barely able to use much of my 300GB off peak allowance because my speed during that period is so bad. I used 2.5% of that allowance last month. I've had to start downloading during peak hours as it's the only time I can download at a decent speed, and I still only use 30% max of my peak allowance.
Newnet's limits are a joke. 20GB for £19.95 a month. If they're speeds are any good, I'd use that in 2 or 3 weeks. I would summise quite a lot of people are staying with ADSL24 because of the comfort of huge download limits they can't possibly use.
Crazybrandonian
13/04/2008, 22:07
I'm barely able to use much of my 300GB off peak allowance because my speed during that period is so bad. I used 2.5% of that allowance last month. I've had to start downloading during peak hours as it's the only time I can download at a decent speed, and I still only use 30% max of my peak allowance.
Newnet's limits are a joke. 20GB for £19.95 a month. If they're speeds are any good, I'd use that in 2 or 3 weeks. I would summise quite a lot of people are staying with ADSL24 because of the comfort of huge download limits they can't possibly use.
Aye, going to phone support tomorrow when the business hours open and try and get something more done about it. If however they choose to just pass me around like a confused christmas parcel like other isp's have in the past i'll leave adsl and look for an alternative.
It is a shame tho because i've really enjoyed being with adsl24, the speeds were absolutely amazing before all this started up.. now they're heading the same way pipex did.
Its so typical in ISP's these days, they open their doors to customers offering great speeds and big limits and don't live up to what they've promised for long.
Now I understand I may indeed sound like a whining sod BUT its my money at the end of the day and I absolutely refuse to continue giving it away to a service which is so poor I can't even do the most basic of things on my line anymore due to it being that unstable.
I'll be going to my bank and cancelling my directdebits if this isn't fixed within the next week or so.
An unstable line may not be DSL24 but BT, or do you mean download speeds. If that is the case, when it is offpeak all the mega downloaders swamp the system using there very generous allowances, so if everyone does it them the system is bound to slow down, you will find that wherever you go. If you want big download allowances and fast as well then you need to be prepared to pay a darn site more than £20!
Crazybrandonian
14/04/2008, 01:41
An unstable line may not be DSL24 but BT, or do you mean download speeds. If that is the case, when it is offpeak all the mega downloaders swamp the system using there very generous allowances, so if everyone does it them the system is bound to slow down, you will find that wherever you go. If you want big download allowances and fast as well then you need to be prepared to pay a darn site more than £20!
A fair point, but in all honesty its not the download limits that attracted me to ADSL24 that was just a bonus, i'm here purely for the linespeeds/Download speed.
So in that respect with the download speed falling rapidly on these ocassions it brings me nothing. I also doubt its BT, the area I live in I have 2 mates locked into other ISP's by a contract and during peak hours their line speeds are fine (reportedly above 3mb/s and never falling below that thresh hold)
The main reason I get steamed due to a slow line is because my last ISP (supanet) was absolutely abysmal, I was locked into that company for 12 months also almost going to court at one point because they were denying that they'd slowed my linespeeds right down (even a BT engineer had told me and my girlfriend that his tests on the line using BT as an ISP directly from the socket gave him speeds of 7.9mb/s) supanet on the otherhand were giving me less than 1mb/s for around 6 months on an 8mb package.
Just don't another speed test from ADSL24 the results are a huge increase this time.
Download Speed: 6027 kbps (753.4 KB/sec ) Upload Speed: 655 kbps (81.9 KB/sec )
I've been here for around 8 months and have never seen speeds below 220kB/s. The only times I have seen speeds that low are between 10pm and 12am or at weekends after 1pm. The speeds are not consistently low during those times either, they fluctuate wildly between that and around 450kB/s.
People that say it's impossible to reach your allowance limits are having a laugh. They recently had to remove the unlimited option due to members downloading Terabytes a month - nevermind 330GB.
People who want full speeds all the time, but do not require a large bandwidth allowance would probably be better served by an alternative and more expensive service.
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They recently had to remove the unlimited option due to members downloading Terabytes a month - nevermind 330GB.
When did they recently remove the unlimited option, and what members were downloading Terabytes a month
yorkie.
Gargoyle
14/04/2008, 08:57
Just don't another speed test from ADSL24 the results are a huge increase this time.
Download Speed: 6027 kbps (753.4 KB/sec ) Upload Speed: 655 kbps (81.9 KB/sec )
I wonder if you were affected by the core router crash on the 10/4 ?
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Tattybear, yes those ISP's are more expensive and has lower download limits, which should maybe tell you something.
You don't get something for nothing and ISP's pay BTW per GB, (not a fixed charge like their users generally pay) and capacity costs. AFAICS, Entanet are cheap for the usage limits they provide, but that must impact on other things, in this case it means the 2 MB speeds at busy off -peak times.
If you are suffering really low speeds consistently, then there would seem to be something else up, that isn't related to the way Entanet works
When did they recently remove the unlimited option, and what members were downloading Terabytes a month
I don't remember exactly when they removed it. November? December? Pre-Christmas, either way. I couldn't possibly comment on which members - ask James - It's from one of his forum posts that I got the information.
buster1967
14/04/2008, 09:32
Is it possible to use that much Bandwidth per month.
Cavey the reason I asked is because I cannot ever remember an unlimited package, before I joined Entanet I had always been on unlimited and I certainly couldn't find one that's why I went on to the 60gb package, since changed to 30gb package because my usage is usually very low,
I will stand being corrected but I am sure that if they had been one I would have gone on it,
yorkie.
It's theoretically possible to download around 2.3TB a month on the full 7150 IP profile. That would require speeds of 840kB/sec for the entire duration of the month though. With the speed losses during half the weekend and 3 hours of each weekday, you're more likely to come out around 1.5TB if you use the entire connection all day every day.
Cavey the reason I asked is because I cannot ever remember an unlimited package, before I joined Entanet I had always been on unlimited and I certainly couldn't find one that's why I went on to the 60gb package, since changed to 30gb package because my usage is usually very low,
I will stand being corrected but I am sure that if they had been one I would have gone on it,
I will assure you that they did. £67 for unlimited, all day, every day...
£93 if you wanted the office variety.
I had no reason for it, so went with a cosier £30 45/300 option.
http://adsl24.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4604
Crazybrandonian
14/04/2008, 11:47
I wonder if you were affected by the core router crash on the 10/4 ?
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Tattybear, yes those ISP's are more expensive and has lower download limits, which should maybe tell you something.
You don't get something for nothing and ISP's pay BTW per GB, (not a fixed charge like their users generally pay) and capacity costs. AFAICS, Entanet are cheap for the usage limits they provide, but that must impact on other things, in this case it means the 2 MB speeds at busy off -peak times.
If you are suffering really low speeds consistently, then there would seem to be something else up, that isn't related to the way Entanet works
Aye its possible I guess Gargoyle, did another speed test this morning and its 5.8mb/s, will do one later during peak hours and see what it is.
Crazybrandonian
14/04/2008, 18:48
Ok, did a new speed test at around 6:40pm results are as follows:
Download Speed: 5256 kbps (657 KB/sec ) Upload Speed: 506 kbps (63.3 KB/sec )
good to be honest, its better than it was last week during peak hours mon-fri so they have done something to improve it, its just weekends now it seems where its slow :) you expect weekends to be slow tho so.
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