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[capnnormski]

Hi everyone sorry to bring this up but my speed has dropped for a week, previous it was good then there was an external fault cable gone down and quite a few phones gone bad sounded like crisp bags being squeezes bt fixed fault after a few days came round done a test all ok as far as sound but speed gone from 34560 to about 2100 see bt test
IP profile for your line is - 2500 kbps
DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM) 2944 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 2169 kbps

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is this the norm or what? bt man tested my gear all ok so it is definatly not my line or my filter etc any ideas? is it a case of a lot more people doing p2p and not enough pipes, any suggestions from anyone thanks

[sjrooney]

Your throughput is spot on for your IP profile, and your IP profile is correct for your sync speed. I guess the question is why your sync speed has dropped so to answer that please post details of attenuation and noise margin from your router. Also, try plugging your router into the test socket behind your master socket faceplate and see if the sync speed changes significantly.

Regards,
Steve

[capnnormski]

sorry Im not to sure about noise etc but here is info i have got
Max 4544 4000 On 22/02/2008 15:08
Max 4544 4000 On 29/02/2008 17:31
Max 4000 3500 On 02/03/2008 11:35
Max 4544 4000 On 04/04/2008 19:57
Max 4000 3500 On 07/04/2008 00:56
Max 4544 4000 Off 17/04/2008 03:34
Max 4544 4000 Off 20/04/2008 13:34
Max 576 500 Off 22/04/2008 18:23
Max 4544 4000 Off 23/04/2008 01:09
Max 4000 3500 Off 24/04/2008 04:23
Max 4544 4000 Off 28/04/2008 06:12
Max 4000 3500 Off 30/04/2008 21:58
Max 2272 2000 Off 07/05/2008 17:33
Max 2272 2000 Off 07/05/2008 18:30
Max 4544 4000 Off 07/05/2008 19:08
Max 2848 2500 Off 07/05/2008 22:30
my ping is 26
upload 379
download 2362

i tried to put router in but difficult as im disabled, but as I said bt man said my wire filter all ok
sorry if info no good but thanks for any info from you and help,:):)

[sjrooney]

That doesn't really tell us much I'm afraid, other than that your line has had a bit of instability. The key things we need are attenuation, sync rate and noise margin from your router. Have a look at Kitz (http://kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.htm) if you're not sure how to get these numbers.

Regards,
Steve

[capnnormski]

System Up Time 02:04:28:54
ADSL Speed (DS/US) 3552/448 Kbps
LAN IP Address 192.168.1.1
Default Gateway 84.45.242.67
Primary DNS Server 195.74.113.58
Secondary DNS Server 195.74.113.62

Firmware Version 3.01q
Boot Loader Version 1.0.37-21.6.9
ADSL Driver Version A2pB018c1.d16d
Ethernet MAC Address 00:11:F5:AF:C6:07
does this help??

[sjrooney]

System Up Time 02:04:28:54
ADSL Speed (DS/US) 3552/448 Kbps
LAN IP Address 192.168.1.1
Default Gateway 84.45.242.67
Primary DNS Server 195.74.113.58
Secondary DNS Server 195.74.113.62

Firmware Version 3.01q
Boot Loader Version 1.0.37-21.6.9
ADSL Driver Version A2pB018c1.d16d
Ethernet MAC Address 00:11:F5:AF:C6:07
does this help??

No, that still isn't what we're after: attenuation and noise margin are what we need.

Regards,
Steve

[capnnormski]

i got these line noise and stats for you if you would look please
Line Mode G.DMT Line State Show Time
Latency Type Fast Line Up Time 00:12:43:35
Line Coding Trellis On Line Up Count 5

Statistics Downstream Upstream
Line Rate 3072 Kbps 448 Kbps
Noise Margin 15.6 dB 23.0 dB
Line Attenuation 39.0 dB 21.0 dB
Output Power 17.8 dBm 11.8 dBm

and this

Line Mode G.DMT Line State Show Time
Latency Type Fast Line Up Time 00:12:43:35
Line Coding Trellis On Line Up Count 5

Statistics Downstream Upstream
Line Rate 3072 Kbps 448 Kbps
Noise Margin 15.6 dB 23.0 dB
Line Attenuation 39.0 dB 21.0 dB
Output Power 17.8 dBm 11.8 dBm

hope this helps you to help me thanks again for any info
:):)

[capnnormski]

also an adsl ber test
ADSL BER Test - Result

The ADSL BER test completed successfully.


Tested Time 20
Total Transferred Bits 55643904
Total Error Bits 0
Error Ratio 0.00e+00


no errors on my line

[capnnormski]

right raised a ticket and on advice i have sent for a new router Thomson ST-546 v6 4-port Ethernet ADSL2+ router
I have noticed that every now and a gain my router wont connect yet if i turn router off and re boot and then put router on while rebooting it comes on, does anyone think it is defunk ( I know im getting a new one as the bt 210 is a second hand ebay job) :)

[capnnormski]

Hi
just had email to comfirm my purchase of a thompson speedtouch from DSL warehouse, it should be here in a few days,
ordered it last week but bank hol on mon ( well it did rain so it must have been a bank hol lol) and it comes with new filters leads etc etc .

I will let you know if my cut off stops and speed improves when I replace my second hand bt 210 with the new thompson, the bt 210 router was second hand from ebay when I originally got it anyway, and it is now randomly shuting off, and i have to switch ithe router of also my pc, then switch it all on again for it to work

[Dae]

You got a Thomson ST-546 v6 rather than a ST-585 v7?

Hopefully will be supplied with some reasonable filters at any rate .. if not a trip to adslnation might be in order :)

[capnnormski]

right got my thompson new cables TWO new filters etc but speed is worse!!!
here are my stats

DSL Connection

Link Information

Uptime: 0 days, 0:34:32
Modulation: G.992.1 Annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 2,528
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [KB/KB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11.5 / 17.5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 21.0 / 36.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 23.0 / 15.5
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ALCB
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 1 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 54
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0

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my bt speedtest
Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
IP profile for your line is - 2000 kbps
DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM) 2528 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 1761 kbps

If you wish to discuss these results please contact your ISP.


my speed has been 3000 and even 3955 downstream
see this
Max 3424 3000 Auto 25/06/2007 14:43
Max 4000 3500 Auto 29/06/2007 09:10
Max 2272 2000 Auto 03/07/2007 15:51
Max 4000 3500 Auto 09/07/2007 14:01
Max 2272 2000 Auto 04/10/2007 19:47
Max 4000 3500 Auto 06/10/2007 01:46
Max 3424 3000 Auto 06/10/2007 10:02
Max 4000 3500 Auto 16/10/2007 16:34
Max 3424 3000 Auto 18/10/2007 04:51
Max 864 750 Auto 23/10/2007 23:43
Max 3424 3000 Auto 24/10/2007 2

so how come?/ I have got an on going ticket all info with it but no joy:confused:
so it seems I have spent money for no reason so far

[tboorman]

Have you tried connecting your router to the test socket at the back of the master socket using a new filter?

[capnnormski]

as i said when the cable was damaged a few weeks ago and telephones were down for days my gear was checked by bt man all were ok, last message on my ticket was that the fault was passed to bt so now it is a matter of waiting for them, how long is anyone guess

[tboorman]

It's still worth trying to see whether it improves your sync speed.

[artyman]

There looks as though there is a lot of margin in your SNR

[tboorman]

It looks like your target SNR margin has been changed from the default of 6 dB to 15 dB at some point.

[capnnormski]

no idea what you mean? all I know my speed is worse than ever, i was told on my ticket they would contact me yesterday evening but nothing, my connections is dropping out last








Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
IP profile for your line is - 2000 kbps
DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM) 2496 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 1447 kbps

If you wish to discuss these results please contact your ISP.

If you are experiencing problems with specific applications, servers or websites please contact your ISP for assistance.

Your test has completed please close this window to exit the performance tester.






Notes:
Your line is configured to the maximum rate that it can support or at your chosen fixed rate, this is known as the line rate and would be viewed through your CPE software or in your router configuration.

Your IP profile is always less than the line rate and is normal on any network.

The Actual IP throughput is the average rate that was achieved during this test.


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Link Information

Uptime: 0 days, 0:07:18
Modulation: G.992.1 Annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 2,528
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [KB/KB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11.5 / 17.5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 21.0 / 36.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 23.0 / 15.5
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ALCB
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 10 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 2 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 21 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 4 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0

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[tboorman]

Your target SNR margin can be 6, 9, 12 or 15 dB. By default it's 6 dB, but if your line is unstable, BT's DLM will increase this in 3 dB increments. A higher target SNR margin will result in a lower sync speed.

[capnnormski]

Ahhh that is a bit more understandable, I had a reply to my ticket and they said it would cost to have an engeneer attend? I dont know if they meant to me or here? and they said I would go on a " awaiting appointment"? what ever that means, I asked how this can be sorted, mind you I did thank them for keeping me informed, they have been good that way cant fault them so far, I seem a bit dense, but
1 I dont know why it has gone like this and more importantly
2 how it can be repaired and also how this can be prevented

any ideas?
and thankyou very much for that info on the snr 3,6,9, etc that does make it a lot clearer to me and I know what to look for really good of you thanks
ohh one item where can I find out what my
Line Attenuation and snr etc should be please
once again thanks for any info

[JamesL]

Thats what BT are saying, they have had a look and cant find a fault on the circuit. Its more than likely that the SNR has increased, forcing your sync rate down due to disconnections.

[ChunkyBloke]

ohh one item where can I find out what my
Line Attenuation and snr etc should be please
once again thanks for any info

Capnormski, there are no values as to what your line att'n and SNR should be as they are both a product of the length and quality of your physical connection from your exchange to your house i.e. they will be different for everybody.

you get what you get I'm afraid. You will see from other posts like this one: http://adsl24.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=5676 that people get wildly different results.

Chunky

[capnnormski]

well I thought mine would be pretty good as I am only 1.5 km from west norwich exchange