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just discovered that the monthly allowance IS NOT the download amount only (thought this was too good to be true). anything uploaded is counted as well. 30gig is not a lot per month as far as downloads is concerned, particularly when using p2p. to be 'charged' for uploads as well, i think, is extremely unfair. it wouldn't be so bad if the upload speed was somewhere near the download speed. the bandwidth used when uploading is minimal compared to that used when downloading(40kps/600kps), so doesn't interfere with anyone else. to me this is just a different way of achieving what most other isps are achieving; maximum gain for (even less than) minimal outlay but instead of throttling a persons connection speed, restricts the amount of usage. would like to know the reason for logging uploads as well.
It has always been the total amount of transfer. If you would have asked us we would have said so :)
30gig is not a lot per month as far as downloads is concerned, particularly when using p2p
Shouldn't you be on a higher plan then? :)
Don't forget you get 300GIG off-peak... more than enough!
tnx for reply james. my mistake for not realising that it was amount transfered, not as i was used to, the amount of downloads. yes, 30 gig is quite sufficient if it is download only. however, can i ask if you use p2p, in particular, torrents? if you do, then you will also know that any amount downloaded must be uploaded as well. in fact usually 20% more upload is required than download. therefore 30gig becomes not so great amount, does it? adsl24 sold itself very well to me by convincing me that the speed issues i had with other isps would not be had here. that is true but to compensate for the 'no throttling', the download amount restriction has taken its place. shame really, because at the moment, i am quite happy with the rest of the adsl24 service in general and my broadband speed in particular. maybe it could be put into the advert that the 'monthly usage' refers to both downloaded and uploaded amounts added together? that at least would make it perfectly clear, then no one would have to ask, would they?
as far as the 300 gig off peak amount is concerned, no problems at all; but again, if you use torrent, you will know that things become unavailable for download very quickly and unrequired for upload even quicker.
That is just the way P2P works and can't be aimed at ADSL24's handling on the monthly usage allowance in fairness though. You can easily change the upload speed or how many people you allow to upload files from you in your Torrent client options.
I'm guessing your P2P usage is completely legal and therefore the files you are sharing to other people are too - as I wouldn't want you to be caught by any of these "monitoring" companies that seem to target P2P so much now. Plus, it's against any ISP's T&C's :)
PineappleJack
15/04/2007, 00:02
My last ISP was 4Gb a month peak. I find 30Gb a month peak more than adequate.
Most ISP's count up and down.
guess you use torrent as well then as you know about changing settings. still doesn't alter the amount of data needed to upload tho.
the confusion wouldn't have arisen in the first place if 'download+upload' had been added to the description for usage.
will just have to try to be more selective on when i download and still admit that at the moment, adsl24 speeds are good!
I can understand that - but then again, it doesn't state anywhere that the monthly limit is only for downloads...
With 300GB off-peak allowance, why not do the P2P overnight?
PineappleJack
15/04/2007, 20:26
The only one I've seen that says the allowance is download only in the ISP details is Zen. I also emailed Newnet once to ask and the were down and up like almost everyone else.
okay so im sure we all have done it at one point, p2p i mean.........
well for one i looked at adsl24 to see all what it had to offer and it does say 30 peak and 300gb off peak bandwidth <== means all the traffic up and down, even i understood that
i used to use p2p before i sussed out another way to download, and its waaaaay better than yer p2p for sure.
and james is right you can alter the times to suit your download, in most p2p clients utorrent/azureus/etc you can alter easy peasy
if you wasent downloading at night u r in for a shock..............lol
as after 10pm is off peak time when u use the 300gb,
i now use up all my bw every month since changeing from p2p.
i might have to upgrade soon. ;)
hope this helps you kev
Gargoyle
01/04/2008, 22:52
guess you use torrent as well then as you know about changing settings. still doesn't alter the amount of data needed to upload tho.
the confusion wouldn't have arisen in the first place if 'download+upload' had been added to the description for usage.
It does say it down at the bottom of the products details page. Tho' it is the norm anyway.
Though my last ISP (AAISP) was one of the few that do only charge for downloads.
I've never found any problem with downloading torrents and keeping ithin the peak time limits. Mostly I have it turning off in the peak times unless I'm in a hurry or it's very slow. but you can always do thing like restrict the upload speed in the peaktimes and then unrestrict it off peak. It doesn't change the amount you might want/need to upload but it can shift the time of time when it happens
bob,smith
05/04/2008, 22:19
James,
any chance we could get a column added to the usage report to sum UL and DL traffic, and likewise a Graph showing the total usage?
That would help with the ambiguity.
Cheers,
BOB
I thought it did give this information already.
Correct Ken
It shows daily up and down, peak and offpeak. Plus a pie-chart showing total peak and offpeak.
Gargoyle
06/04/2008, 10:26
James,
any chance we could get a column added to the usage report to sum UL and DL traffic, and likewise a Graph showing the total usage?
That would help with the ambiguity.
What ambiguity?
As other have doesn't it shows this already.
Finalreminder
09/04/2008, 21:39
I was with Pipex unlimited for a couple of years and compared to ADSL24 - well, lets just say I'm more than happy with agreeing to download/upload limits in return for these speeds.
300GB per month is way enough. 30GB peak is enough as I'm working all day anyway
So the moral of the tale is; Get a frikkin job!!:D
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