upload speed as a chargable service

[hornedrat]

Probably not in the right section but have enta/adsl considered letting home users pay a small supplement say £1/£2 in order to get the faster upload speed that office users currently enjoy.

I would really like the faster speed but office 45 is too much for me as i dont need the usage allowance and do not feel it is worth that much extra money just for the upload.

[produx]

I doubt they'd be able to that as all the service options are standard IPStream setups from BT Wholesale..

[hornedrat]

my understanding (which might be wrong) is that the service options do not relate to peak/off peak times or allowances, so unless there is a large gap between the price for supply of the basic office or home package this i thought might be possible.

One downside from the james' point of view is the idea that if they did this as an option for home subscribers could make office less attractive?

I suppose i kinda thought it would be like some of the companies that offer static ip's as a seperate product (not that that is a good idea James' I like my static ip and is one of the reasons i am here)

[Scope]

Probably not in the right section but have enta/adsl considered letting home users pay a small supplement say £1/£2 in order to get the faster upload speed that office users currently enjoy.


Very good idea, if possible. I wouldnt go for the office package, but I would consider paying a bit (no more than £1-2) for the higher upload speed.

[jas88]

Very good idea, if possible. I wouldnt go for the office package, but I would consider paying a bit (no more than £1-2) for the higher upload speed.

I'm a similar boat: I'm on Office at the moment entirely for the higher upload speed, which is why I'm so irritated by the proposal to give the Home package users priority over Office ones during the evening - the very time I use my connection the most!

As it stands, the new plans would force me to choose between halving my upload speed or suffering a performance hit when I'm using the package the most - or, of course, the option I'd actually choose, the "request MAC" button.

MTA: if I could get a "Home" package but with the higher upload speed, I'd be a lot happier and hence less likely to leave. Alternatively, of course, they could just drop the crazy planned changes: a price increase, I could just about swallow, but if I wanted a service reduction I'd have stayed with Nildram-turned-Tiscali!

[buster1967]

Looks like i will have to go with the home package option if its going to be the best.

[James]

Unfortunately BT govern the prices and they only offer two options - BT IPstream (448k) and BT IPstream Premium (832k) so we don't have any way to provide extra upload on the standard Home package without giving it the BT Premium service which is Office.

[hornedrat]

thought that might be the case. shame really. not to worry will either pray for 2+ or hope i can afford the office package one day (office 45 is too much for me at mo due to belt tightening)

[buster1967]

Thanks James that all i wanted to know, its a shame though.

[Garbo]

"faster upload speed that office users currently enjoy"

We are now only enjoying them through the chargeable period as they are being hammered like everything else by the new throttling hardware.Over the last 3 months all the good reasons i had for joining Enta have evaporated.

[hornedrat]

how are the upload speeds being hammered? I would have thought the alt focused on downloads?

[jas88]

Unfortunately BT govern the prices and they only offer two options - BT IPstream (448k) and BT IPstream Premium (832k) so we don't have any way to provide extra upload on the standard Home package without giving it the BT Premium service which is Office.

I know that - it's IPStream Max Premium that I want (and have now, as part of the "Office" package), but I don't want to be throttled during the evenings on the false assumption that IPStream Max Premium == Office user == used during the day not the evening.

The issue, though, is that I can now only get IPStream Max Premium in conjunction with the Entanet offering designed for use during the day - and that bit is Entanet's doing, nothing to do with BT. If Entanet wanted, they could offer a choice between Max and Max Premium (i.e. which level of upload speed you want) independently of the Office/Home package, in the same way you can turn the Priority Care feature on and off.

In fact, that's almost exactly how the "Office premium" option looks for ADSL2+ lines: if I can enable that option on an Entanet Home package in the unlikely event I live long enough to see my "February" upgrade date materialise... As far as I can see, enabling that would give me the better exchange-level performance, with the upload speed being the same regardless of package, and higher priority in the evenings when I use it most.

[Garbo]

how are the upload speeds being hammered? I would have thought the alt focused on downloads?

I have found my upload speeds have got throttled at times as well .Its so uncertain i refuse to call this an ALT , i have suffered this before with plusnet,and its exactly the same as what i saw when the ellacoya system was introduced which was why i left them.

IMO the ALT was a very fair transparent way of management,what we are seeing and are going to see isn't.....you can have 10 customers doing the exact same thing on different nodes and they are all being treated differently by design.

Its the equivalent of having 10 different Isp's.