Where are all the ship jumpers going to? [Archive]

RossCo

10/02/2009, 07:53

Cheaper deals, better customer service, better speeds

Thats what to look for. See whats available, chose what you want then switch. I opted for an LLu provider (Sky). I was unable to work from home anymore, I was unable to use youtube, stream music etc etc so really I was paying for a service which was a waste of money for me.

Whats available in your area Jaybird , have a look on samknows :)

JayBird

10/02/2009, 09:17

Whats available in your area Jaybird , have a look on samknows :)

Not much, just the standard ADSL packages, no LLU, cable or anything like that :(

Busa

10/02/2009, 09:33

Well i jumped to o2 LLU...fantastic for me..went from 2700kbps and a ping of 36 to 4300kbps and a ping of 26 for £7-34 a month:D...and bt say im to far from my exchange to get LLU....bunch of morons:rolleyes:

RossCo

10/02/2009, 15:03

Not much, just the standard ADSL packages, no LLU, cable or anything like that :(

I think at the moment even Talk Talk, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali etc etc etc would be better than the dial up speeds on offer here atm. I dont give a crap about speeds or pings, all I care about is having a package that allows me to work from home and view the occasional streaming video. I couldnt do that anymore so I checked out my other options.

Anything has to be better than the crap some people are getting.

What is most worrying is the fact that no one seems to be giving any answers at all.

I never had the option to hang on and everything I read convinced me to jump ship asap.

Laser157

10/02/2009, 15:31

It's rather nice you are so attached to this forum RossCo. Sky's forums no good?

multisync666

10/02/2009, 15:42

Ross as you are no longer an ADSL24 customer it amazes me that you can comment at the present time about connections.As you are no longer connected here it is your assumption that connections are a problem now
I had problems for the first 10 days after the switch over and yes i did complain on these forums about it.Now it seems to be sorting it's self out .I did actually put in for a mac but know have decided not to use it.You had a bad experiance but now you have left and are happy with the service you are getting.So stop sticking the knife in as you no longer have an personal experiance of what is going on here and are getting your information second hand

Reines

10/02/2009, 15:48

and bt say im to far from my exchange to get LLU....bunch of morons:rolleyes:
That doesn't make any sense. If your exchange has LLU, then you can get LLU. Distance to it will affect speed, but not availability. Also why would you be asking BT about LLU? BT own the exchanges, LLU is when other ISPs put their equipment in the exchange rather than using BTs.

I think at the moment even Talk Talk, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali etc etc etc would be better than the dial up speeds on offer here atm. I dont give a crap about speeds or pings, all I care about is having a package that allows me to work from home and view the occasional streaming video. I couldnt do that anymore so I checked out my other options.
I agree the offpeak speed here isn't good, but I strongly disagree that Tiscali would be better. My parents have Tiscali, and on a line synced at around 3Mbit their max throughput (except at like 4am when no-one is on-line) is around 100kbps (10kB/s). At least here the slow speeds are only for a couple hours (not that, that is acceptable either).

Edit: Here's (http://www.speedtest.net/result/381900428.png) a speedtest to back that up from last time I was there.

Laser157

10/02/2009, 15:48

Well said multisync. Looking on the Sky forums people are moaning about the same stuff.

produx

10/02/2009, 15:54

That doesn't make any sense. If your exchange has LLU, then you can get LLU. Distance to it will affect speed, but not availability. Also why would you be asking BT about LLU? BT own the exchanges, LLU is when other ISPs put their equipment in the exchange rather than using BTs.

Although its not BT's call to make, some LLU suppliers do limit how far away you can be from the exchange... for example O2 limits the line length for LLU to 5.5KM's...

JayBird

10/02/2009, 15:59

Think im gonna stay here, at least until i buy a new house in a few months. Hopefully the area i choose will have cable :)

tonys

10/02/2009, 16:05

Think im gonna stay here, at least until i buy a new house in a few months. Hopefully the area i choose will have cable :)

NEWSFLASH : Nationwide BS reports huge jump in house prices in areas served by cable networks :D

Busa

10/02/2009, 16:07

That doesn't make any sense. If your exchange has LLU, then you can get LLU. Distance to it will affect speed, but not availability. Also why would you be asking BT about LLU? BT own the exchanges, LLU is when other ISPs put their equipment in the exchange rather than using BTs.

Because the majority of isps use the BT line length checker and it says my distance from the exchange is over 6km so o2 had to ignore that info and activate me:rolleyes:...i thought you would have known that;)

JayBird

10/02/2009, 16:08

NEWSFLASH : Nationwide BS reports huge jump in house prices in areas served by cable networks :D

You kow what, it is actually on my list of consideration when buying a new house, it is a low priority, granted, but it would definately be a small selling point :D

wayne

10/02/2009, 16:24

I am going to have a look at this provider - http://www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk/int_adslmax.html

Reines

10/02/2009, 16:30

Because the majority of isps use the BT line length checker and it says my distance from the exchange is over 6km so o2 had to ignore that info and activate me:rolleyes:...i thought you would have known that;)
As produx mentioned, that's Be/O2 limiting the distance from the exchange that they will serve, not BT.

I am going to have a look at this provider - http://www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk/int_adslmax.html
Doesn't look too promising so far :P I tired entering my phone number and got:

Unexpected Error

Sorry, you've managed to trip up our checker please leave your details so that we can manually check availability for you.

multisync666

10/02/2009, 16:36

reines i looked at them and this is a reply i got

In that post code area, it looks like there has been no LLU from any carriers. Other ISPS will be running of BT’s network.

Based on that, I can still offer 8Mbps ADSL, for a fantastic price of £22.00 + VAT a month, with up to 0.5 Mbps upload and an activation of £41.00 + VAT.

If you’re interested we also offer a preconfigured ADSL 2 router to give you the best from the service at £43.70 + VAT.

Unfortunately through this service the 50 Gig cap applies, although at this price you may still find it very competitive based on other quotes you’ve seen for the BT ADSL Max service.

Busa

10/02/2009, 17:07

As produx mentioned, that's Be/O2 limiting the distance from the exchange that they will serve, not BT.

Doesn't look too promising so far :P I tired entering my phone number and got:

Unexpected Error

Sorry, you've managed to trip up our checker please leave your details so that we can manually check availability for you.

But the point i was trying to make is that isps use the bt checker and the bt checker is not always correct..thats why i had to ask o2 to ignore the bt information...is that clear enough for you?...its very simple....anyway enta sucks ass and o2 llu dont.

RossCo

10/02/2009, 17:57

It's rather nice you are so attached to this forum RossCo. Sky's forums no good?

You seem rather taken to comment on most of the stuff I say :rolleyes:

Now I wonder why I continue to read these forums :D

As for the other chappie who mentioned sticking the knife in, well I hardly call honesty sticking the knife in. The damage is being done on a daily basis by the provider. I couldnt live with another week or so at least of dial up speeds. perhaps others can afford to do that but I cant, so I hardly call that sticking the knife in.
I am still curious as to how this pans out and dont think for one minute I wouldnt be happy to think crap I made a mistake I should have been more patient ADSL24 have sorted their stuff out. In todays climate I hate to see small companys suffer.

I am not that starter of all these threads and those who feel the need to comment on my comments have yet to explain why I am sticking the knife in.

I speak in the forums but I can assure you guys people have messaged me here and on other forums expressing the same feelings. I am not the only ex ADSL24 customer here. if the staff decide to ban non customers then that is up to them it will only cause more damage and bad press.

Reines

10/02/2009, 18:11

But the point i was trying to make is that isps use the bt checker and the bt checker is not always correct..thats why i had to ask o2 to ignore the bt information...is that clear enough for you?...its very simple....anyway enta sucks ass and o2 llu dont.
1) No it wasn't clear at all, your initial post said nothing what so ever about any of that, it said BT had told you that you were too far from the exchange for LLU, now you say that O2 told you that you were too far, because the BT line checker said your line is 6km.

2) What does that have to do with Enta and why does it require slagging them?

neelie

10/02/2009, 18:54

I am going to have a look at this provider - http://www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk/int_adslmax.html

According to SamKnows Cerberus use O2/Be LLU, they may of course use others as well.

"Providers using the O2 / Be LLU network to provide broadband connections:
•O2 broadband
•Be Unlimited
•A handful of business providers, including Cerberus Networks and Fluidata"

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/provider/be/

RossCo

10/02/2009, 19:33

Remember samknows does not list all the providers

Busa

10/02/2009, 19:44

1) No it wasn't clear at all, your initial post said nothing what so ever about any of that, it said BT had told you that you were too far from the exchange for LLU, now you say that O2 told you that you were too far, because the BT line checker said your line is 6km.

2) What does that have to do with Enta and why does it require slagging them?

You are so right..enjoy your time with enta..you are welcome to them:D

ianonline

10/02/2009, 20:30

I love the question, where is everyone going, I dont have LLU any suggestions.
I see only one and a lot of moans and LLU options
LOL

produx

10/02/2009, 21:43

could do with a moderator removing all the non-relevant posts i reckon...

the-bruce

10/02/2009, 22:12

I am not the only ex ADSL24 customer here. if the staff decide to ban non customers then that is up to them it will only cause more damage and bad press.

Personally it should be for adsl24 customers only.

Brucey

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cliff

10/02/2009, 22:24

Personally it should be for adsl24 customers only.

Brucey

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I totally agree with you on that point Brucey.;)

Would be nice to see the people become visible and up front on posting fairly on the Forum.:rolleyes:

tinyclanger

10/02/2009, 22:27

Personally it should be for adsl24 customers only.

Brucey

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Bruce....if you get your MAC and leave, then that means you won't be able to post here. Whatever will we do?:o

the-bruce

10/02/2009, 22:31

Bruce....if you get your MAC and leave, then that means you won't be able to post here. Whatever will we do?:o

lol you will cope babes, i just end up upsetting folks anyways ...

Brucey

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Finguz

10/02/2009, 22:33

Anywhere but entanet :(

RossCo

11/02/2009, 07:51

Personally it should be for adsl24 customers only.

There is no reason why the staff couldnt set up a members only area.

Bottom line is , if people cant gripe or air their opinions here then they will do so on other forums and when some of these forums are recieving 1000's of hits evry day that wouldnt be productive. Blocking the forums would only lose potential customers.

There must be some kind of ignore feature if people dont like what others have to say, I know I skip past replies by some people (I recognise them by their avatar).

jas88

11/02/2009, 16:58

Personally it should be for adsl24 customers only.

Brucey

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I disagree there - back when I was with Nildram and looking for a new ISP, the openness here was a big attraction: I could see exactly what the current customers were saying, as well as all noc.enta.net's pretty graphs of network load.

Of course, it was a lot easier to say that when Enta provided a good service; I'm hoping once the IPSC nodes have enough capacity enabled it will be the case again. Right now, this forum probably isn't ADSL24's best marketing tool - but it was, and could be again with a good service involved.

ddave

11/02/2009, 17:54

I'll be moving to O2 LLU when it finally gets enabled on my exchange (current RFS date is 31/01/2009 which is overdue) I'll get double the speed for nearly a 3rd of the price of Entanet, oh and I wont have to worry about random usage ALT throttling and peak times etc. If the enablement date gets pushed back too much I may then opt for Sky LLU.

wfnuk

11/02/2009, 18:16

There must be some kind of ignore feature if people dont like what others have to say, I know I skip past replies by some people (I recognise them by their avatar).

There is - User CP> Settings & Options> Edit Ignore List

surv1v0r

11/02/2009, 19:15

Personally it should be for adsl24 customers only.I don't agree with this at all. Far and away one of the most appealing characteristics of ADSL24 is the openness and responsiveness.

This forum had a fair amount to do with my decision to migrate to here and I have certainly pointed others to it when they have asked me for recommendations for an ISP.

If a prospect reads bad news here and feels he can live with it, he isn't going to assume that simply because he can't read similar bad news about Pipex, Demon or whoever, they are perfect.

Just occasionally, people will respect openness and honesty.

Jleo

12/02/2009, 01:38

I'm sure I read somewhere that to go with an LLu package ties you up to that provider for said contract time period (12-18 months in some cases)

Is it also true that when it comes time to move, say for a better deal else where, the moving process is more difficult and maybe more expensive (No free migration) than when not LLu'd?

Err, I hope thats understandable :)

ckupris

12/02/2009, 19:14

Shortest LLU contract I know of is Be*'s 3 month rolling one. Moving back to a BT based ISP will cost you the £40 activation fee (charged by BT).

LoneGunman

13/02/2009, 13:03

On the subject of forums why not set it so that there are public and customer / member only forums.

Transmit This

13/02/2009, 14:51

It is a daft idea to limit forum to ADSL members.
How can Jo public know whats going on in the forum?.

On Topic, Moving accommodation soon, so I will be changing to another ISP, I don't even care who it will be anymore, I just want to get away from Entanet and their useless connection.